My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: Wisconsin
The other night on a street that I drive on practically daily, I was pulled over immediately after stopping at a stop sign. I have a feeling some kind of entrapment is going on here.
I would like to state my case.
The stop sign is placed in an odd spot and has been there for years. It is on a main road through a subdivision, no businesses, and very few houses facing it. One side of the street at the stop sign is a driveway entry to a condo community and the other side is a street that goes into the subdivision. There are no stop signs on any of the side streets that enter out on to this main street. There are no crosswalk lines or stop lines anywhere, there are no trees or bushes along that street to block any views, and it is a wide street with a clear view of any other moving traffic. On this street there is only two overhead streetlights and the one on that corner usually does not work so it is often dark. This road rarely sees a lot of traffic at least none to warrant a police officer to be posted at that corner. They only sit there during the night, I have seen them before.
On that evening the street light was out so it was dark. As I approach the sign I did see a car parked with no lights on in the driveway of the condo community. I wondered if it was a police car. I stopped and looked both ways, my speedometer showed no speed and my RPMs dropped and I proceed to go. I was not even through the intersection before the police lights from the undercover squad came on. I very startled and pulled over barely past the corner. I was surprised when he told me I did a rolling stop. The charge is failure to stop at a stop sign, it carries a fine and 3 points. Another thing is he asked for proof of insurance, I have insurance I just did not have the proof with me. He let me go on that, I think that when I showed proof of insurance at a later point it all would have been a waste of time for him. He did not know if I actually had insurance or not. If I did not it would have meant a fine. Wisconsin is a state that you have to show proof of insurance when you are pulled over.
This is where the question is about entrapment comes in. Just 2 weeks before my mother was pulled over in the same spot. She also drives on this street on a regular basis. I have friend whose parents live on the next corner and they mentioned that they were beginning to get bothered by the flashing lights and headlights shining at their house. It came up because there was some one was pulled over when I was visiting at their house, they did not know about my ticket.
Is there something unsavory going on here? If there have been complaints of people truly running the stop sign then stop them not law-abiding citizens that have stopped at the sign even if it was only for a second and they have accessed that there was no danger in proceeding through the intersection.
I am a young woman who was frightened, I have never been pulled over before. I do not think that I was being targeted, I think that the corner is being used to entrap people because it is hard to prove when there is no other witness.
Does one count one 1,000 two 1,000 three, 1000 at stop sign? There is no law about 3 seconds either. The 3-second rule is something taught to new drivers to give them some idea what stopping means and give them time to access the situation. For a seasoned driver they are accessing the situation when approaching the stop sign, as I did, and the stop was completed when my speedometer went to zero. How long is driver expected to wait at a stop sign if there is no traffic coming? Was the police officer counting for me? If so, is there a set amount of time for him to count to for me? If I waited too long then it would it have been suspicious? So a police officer waiting in the dark at a stop sign would have to be have to be suspect of every person approaching the stop sign for one reason or another. No one could do it right. It is not the same a waiting for someone who may speed and there is a radar clocking the movement.
I do not know how well anyone could see the tires of a car to see if they have completely stopped moving especially if the only light was my headlights. No lights were shinning on my tires. I do know my speedometer showed no speed and my RPMs dropped.
No one was coming from either direction, what would I be waiting for?
All of this happen in about 10 seconds from the time I saw a car parked on a dark side street, I stopped and I was pulled over.
That is my case, I am looking an opinion on entrapment and what can be done to stop it, also any answers on how to fight this ticket.
I have read where a lot cities offer a jacked up fine and wave the points, because it is all about the money and not about the safety. I don’t know if that is the case here. I don’t even know how many tickets have been written to prove anything, but traffic court has to be pretty busy since I don’t have a court date until March. How would I get such records on the activities at this corner? It has been suggested to call the alderman about it, would that do any good? How does one stop this kind of thing?
The other night on a street that I drive on practically daily, I was pulled over immediately after stopping at a stop sign. I have a feeling some kind of entrapment is going on here.
I would like to state my case.
The stop sign is placed in an odd spot and has been there for years. It is on a main road through a subdivision, no businesses, and very few houses facing it. One side of the street at the stop sign is a driveway entry to a condo community and the other side is a street that goes into the subdivision. There are no stop signs on any of the side streets that enter out on to this main street. There are no crosswalk lines or stop lines anywhere, there are no trees or bushes along that street to block any views, and it is a wide street with a clear view of any other moving traffic. On this street there is only two overhead streetlights and the one on that corner usually does not work so it is often dark. This road rarely sees a lot of traffic at least none to warrant a police officer to be posted at that corner. They only sit there during the night, I have seen them before.
On that evening the street light was out so it was dark. As I approach the sign I did see a car parked with no lights on in the driveway of the condo community. I wondered if it was a police car. I stopped and looked both ways, my speedometer showed no speed and my RPMs dropped and I proceed to go. I was not even through the intersection before the police lights from the undercover squad came on. I very startled and pulled over barely past the corner. I was surprised when he told me I did a rolling stop. The charge is failure to stop at a stop sign, it carries a fine and 3 points. Another thing is he asked for proof of insurance, I have insurance I just did not have the proof with me. He let me go on that, I think that when I showed proof of insurance at a later point it all would have been a waste of time for him. He did not know if I actually had insurance or not. If I did not it would have meant a fine. Wisconsin is a state that you have to show proof of insurance when you are pulled over.
This is where the question is about entrapment comes in. Just 2 weeks before my mother was pulled over in the same spot. She also drives on this street on a regular basis. I have friend whose parents live on the next corner and they mentioned that they were beginning to get bothered by the flashing lights and headlights shining at their house. It came up because there was some one was pulled over when I was visiting at their house, they did not know about my ticket.
Is there something unsavory going on here? If there have been complaints of people truly running the stop sign then stop them not law-abiding citizens that have stopped at the sign even if it was only for a second and they have accessed that there was no danger in proceeding through the intersection.
I am a young woman who was frightened, I have never been pulled over before. I do not think that I was being targeted, I think that the corner is being used to entrap people because it is hard to prove when there is no other witness.
Does one count one 1,000 two 1,000 three, 1000 at stop sign? There is no law about 3 seconds either. The 3-second rule is something taught to new drivers to give them some idea what stopping means and give them time to access the situation. For a seasoned driver they are accessing the situation when approaching the stop sign, as I did, and the stop was completed when my speedometer went to zero. How long is driver expected to wait at a stop sign if there is no traffic coming? Was the police officer counting for me? If so, is there a set amount of time for him to count to for me? If I waited too long then it would it have been suspicious? So a police officer waiting in the dark at a stop sign would have to be have to be suspect of every person approaching the stop sign for one reason or another. No one could do it right. It is not the same a waiting for someone who may speed and there is a radar clocking the movement.
I do not know how well anyone could see the tires of a car to see if they have completely stopped moving especially if the only light was my headlights. No lights were shinning on my tires. I do know my speedometer showed no speed and my RPMs dropped.
No one was coming from either direction, what would I be waiting for?
All of this happen in about 10 seconds from the time I saw a car parked on a dark side street, I stopped and I was pulled over.
That is my case, I am looking an opinion on entrapment and what can be done to stop it, also any answers on how to fight this ticket.
I have read where a lot cities offer a jacked up fine and wave the points, because it is all about the money and not about the safety. I don’t know if that is the case here. I don’t even know how many tickets have been written to prove anything, but traffic court has to be pretty busy since I don’t have a court date until March. How would I get such records on the activities at this corner? It has been suggested to call the alderman about it, would that do any good? How does one stop this kind of thing?
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